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03 May 2009 @ 09:25 pm
Today my trial LadyCup/LilacCup split while inside me, and it ended up in two pieces after removal attempts.

I like using a new cup on a day I'm not menstruating so it's easier for me to understand how it's fitting without the extra complication of the blood and worrying about leakage or spilling. So I'd used it for around 7-9 days total, mostly with a gap between days, but this weekend I used it for around 4 days straight. Turning it inside out solved the removal problem I'd been having.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with it upon visual inspection for the last few days, but then when I went to remove it for rinsing this morning I found that there was an extra edge to it. After a bit of fishing (in the bathroom at my boyfriend's parents' house, right next to where they were chatting over breakfast), I realized that there was a large hole in the middle but the stem was still attached (though I realize now it had flipped right side out through the hole). I knew that pulling the stem would likely worsen the rip, but there wasn't really anything else to grab onto, so I started gently pulling it, and of course the stem ripped right off the rest of the cup.

I never panicked thankfully - reading all the stories of other people's cups getting stuck for days made me think "if I can't get this out right now, I can just wait till my boyfriend and I get home tonight and then he can help me with it." (Thankfully the edges didn't feel sharp, or that might've freaked me out.) The remaining portion of the cup was as hard to grip as it ever was, and I wasn't able to reach up far enough to hook a finger over the lip, so I just gripped one side of the bowl of the cup best I could while doing Kegels. I repeatedly had my fingers slip off of it, but in a few minutes or less I worked it down enough that I could grab with fingertips on two hands, and then it came out easily.

It looks to me like what happened is that the tear started at a hole, spread down to the stem, and then looped back up to intersect itself.

Photos of the result. Click on each for a bigger version.

In two pieces:
Lilac Cup Split!

Showing how the tear probably went:
Lilac Cup Split!

Lilac Cup Split!

I had absolutely no warning whatsoever - I hadn't seen any tiny tears at the holes, nothing. And I also didn't feel the tearing while it was inside me.

I am going to write to the makers of the cup (including a photo) to let them know what happened. I do not expect a replacement since this was a trial cup, but if they offer one I will use it. If they don't offer a replacement I don't think I'll be buying one, since for me it is similar to my Diva in terms of insertion and comfort once inserted, but inferior to the Diva in terms of removal (even when inside out, it's still harder for me to remove than the Diva).

Edit: They replied thanking me for the story.

Dear [my name removed],

Thank you for your experience and all information! I must you inform that
your way of splitting is unusual.

Sorry for all inconvenience!

Best regards,
Iveta Stutzova

It was nice of them to respond.
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zandperl: Daisyzandperl on May 4th, 2009 02:39 am (UTC)
I was just starting to think I liked it enough to try during menstruation! :-P
(no subject) - atarisemochick on May 6th, 2009 04:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)
* Louise *lougolas on May 4th, 2009 02:28 am (UTC)
Wow, that's the most extreme trial cup rip I've seen! I have a trial large LilacCup and a trial small BlueCup that I haven't actually had a chance to try out yet, think I might do it as a dry run just in case the same thing happens to me!
zandperl: Daisyzandperl on May 4th, 2009 02:37 am (UTC)
I suspect what happened was that while it was under pressure inside me, it started a tiny rip at one of the holes, and because of the squeezing that tiny rip spread straight down to the stem. I think the fact that it was inside out might have made the rip spread sideways in the middle, or else it made the rip loop around the stem end, but either way there was definitely enough of a rip to get a finger into when I went to remove it. The stem part was still attached to the bowl when I started removing it, but it had detached enough to flip rightside out while the bowl was still inside out. Tugging on the stem to remove ripped it the rest of the way off. It just seems like a "perfect storm" of circumstances, between being inside me, being inside out, and then having to pull it to remove it, that led to this particularly extreme shredding.

Edit: Also, if you think you're going to be using it inside out at all, I'd recommend flipping it back and forth a few times to see if you can prompt a tear before you start using it, so you can get it replaced for free legitimately.

Edited at 2009-05-04 02:40 am (UTC)
Naoko Kensakumistressnaoko on May 4th, 2009 02:33 am (UTC)
Damn, but that sucks. I hope they reply to you soon! That kind of a tear is rather bad. :S
zandperl: Daisyzandperl on May 4th, 2009 02:38 am (UTC)
I don't particularly "need" a response since it was a trial cup and I was outside the single use guarantee so I do not expect a replacement. But the fact that this happened while it was inside me is what prompted me to write them at all.
(no subject) - mistressnaoko on May 4th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - zandperl on May 4th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mistressnaoko on May 5th, 2009 01:07 pm (UTC) (Expand)
melissa569melissa569 on May 4th, 2009 02:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, those holes are pretty notorious for starting tears in the trial cups. But that is one crasy tear! lol. Probably one of the most interesting ones I've seen so far :)
melissa569melissa569 on May 4th, 2009 05:49 am (UTC)
woops, *crazy* lol. Gotta quit rushing when I type...
2clueless2clueless on May 4th, 2009 03:07 am (UTC)
I don't wish to sound rude, but as it was a trial cup you knew it was likely it would tear and was only guarantee for one use. Why would you contact the company if you knew it would tear? It is unfortunate that it tore inside you, but I'm sure you understood that was a risk when you purchased it.
Melissa: moonchildprincessy on May 4th, 2009 03:50 am (UTC)
I agree. The situation sucks (I'd hate to have a cup split inside of me), but I'm not sure why LadyCup would offer a replacement on a trial cup when the risks were clear.
(no subject) - amanita03 on May 4th, 2009 03:53 am (UTC) (Expand)
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melanie12891 on May 4th, 2009 03:43 am (UTC)
Oh my god! ACK. That must have been a challenge to get out. Wow. I know it is a trial cup but man, that's terrible!
ex_skewedso on May 4th, 2009 04:08 am (UTC)
I'm confused (forgive me). Is a Lilac Cup a throw-away/temporary thing to start with? What's the difference between a trial cup and the real thing?
Katzhukora1 on May 4th, 2009 04:13 am (UTC)
LadyCup produced a few batches of colored cups that were discovered to be defective, and easily torn. Once they isolated which cups were not up to manufacturing standard, they started selling the defective ones as "trial" cups--very inexpensive, but not guaranteed to last for more than one use. Their new batches of cups are supposedly not defective. Nobody has complained lately about a non-trial colored LadyCup tearing, so I think everything is ok for them now.
(no subject) - zandperl on May 4th, 2009 11:10 am (UTC) (Expand)
Kellyrainbowtastic on May 4th, 2009 05:41 am (UTC)
That is a super intense tear... I hope all works out for the best! I didn't even know a cup could tear like that without being torn apart by someones hands!
Kai: pic#77976566kuradi8 on May 4th, 2009 11:30 am (UTC)
"Turning it inside out solved the removal problem I'd been having."

The inside-out craze started with the Diva -- to shorten it because it's just too long for many -- but cups are not designed to be flipped.

If I were a cup's company representative (I'm not) I'd reply that it was due to misuse.

Those who flip their cups are doing something they were never designed to do.
Kellyrainbowtastic on May 4th, 2009 02:28 pm (UTC)
I wonder if cup companies realize that many women do flip the cups inside out? It might be in their best interest to make the design such that the cups could be flipped inside out and back again without a problem.
(no subject) - carmensandra on May 5th, 2009 05:04 am (UTC) (Expand)
freznowfreznow on May 4th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
Mine looks a lot like that (2 different parts), but it was because I squished it a bit after it tore. It wasn't inside me at the time.
Blogging Sarabloggingsara on May 5th, 2009 02:19 am (UTC)
omg that is bad. i'm glad you are going to write to the makers of the cup.