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Hello, all.
I know everyone is eager to get to the bottom of The Alicia Saga.

Following the response I received from Mr. Alves of Goldwin Medicare Ltd., I was contacted by Samantha Backman.

Apparently, previous communication thought to be from Ms. Backman was actually from a volunteer with good intentions using Ms. Backman's name.
Unfortunately, she (the volunteer) shared some sensitive and inaccurate information with us.

I will try to set the record straight according to the information Ms. Backman has provided me.

The Alicia cup was sold in Australia and New Zealand via their website for about 6 months. Approximately 4,000 units were sold and the testimonials are from real users. The company decided they didn't want to compete at a retail level and established a relationship with LifeCell.
It seems the website was left up by mistake.

There are no immediate plans for The Alicia to be sold at a retail level in India or anywhere else.
At this time, LifeCell has rights to The Alicia for stem cell collection.

Ms. Backman says that she hopes the women who use it for stem cell collection will feel comfortable using it as a menstrual cup.

The information regarding Mr. Alves connection with The Alicia was also incorrect.
While his company is involved in the manufacture of other products being developed by the Alicia group, Goldwin Medicare Ltd. was not involved in the production of The Alicia menstrual cup.

I'm sure we can all understand his utter dismay at receiving my email...

The information regarding the Government of India's plan to subsidize and distribute 800 million Alicia cups was also inaccurate, at best.
The Indian government has no intention to purchase or distribute The Alicia menstrual cup.
There are other products/medical devices under development that Ms. Backman and her company hope will prove beneficial to the people of India. While she shared some information with me, she is unable to discuss it publicly (and asked me to keep the information private as well) because things are still in the R&D phase.

Ms. Backman says she was a menstrual cup user for many years - until she hit menopause. She says her daughters as well as her female staff members use The Alicia.

So there you have it. Mystery solved.

*Edit*
I have integrated the answers from Samantha B. into my original post regarding contact with Mr. Alves and I have added the email to Mr. Abhaya with answers highlighted, as well.  (see this post)

*Edit 2 - 4/23/09*
I'm releasing this to public viewing w/Ms. Backman's approval.

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elizabbyelizabby on April 22nd, 2009 11:02 pm (UTC)
So the bottom line appears to be that the Alicia cup is NOT available on a commercial/retail basis at the current time? In which case I feel my interest in the whole thing disappearing...

Maybe we should remove the Alicia from the list of menstrual cup brands? If it isn't available, IMO, not much point talking about it. Mods? Opinions?
Katzhukora1 on April 22nd, 2009 11:19 pm (UTC)
I don't know--it seems like it might be good to keep it just as a reference for newbies to the community who may have heard of it and want to find out what the deal is. There were at least 4,000 cups circulating in Australia/New Zealand, after all, and who knows how many being distributed for menstrual stem cell collection. That's a lot of potential for word-of-mouth! I'd hate to think that someone would come here looking for information on it and feel like they have to start completely from scratch when this community is probably the largest storehouse of cup information on the whole internet.
elizabbyelizabby on April 22nd, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
True - it just seems a bit misleading to have it at the top of the brand list (which is in alphabetical order) when it isn't really available. I mean, if I were starting as a newbie looking at cups, I'd probably go down the brand list in order from the start - and if the Alicia cup isn't a good example that doesn't make a very good first impression, KWIM?

I think you might be right about keeping the tag, but in the brand list it either needs to move down the list, or to have a note like (not commercially available, included for completeness) next to it, so people know what is going on.

So how do we flag THIS discussion for the mods to see??
elizabbyelizabby on April 22nd, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
Never mind - I figured it out.
Katzhukora1 on April 22nd, 2009 11:58 pm (UTC)
I like that idea! If it could be moved lower on the list or asterisked or something, I would totally dig it.
iudmamaiudmama on April 22nd, 2009 11:23 pm (UTC)
If the Alicia tag does get removed, perhaps the Alicia posts should be re-tagged with "blood - other uses" since other stem cell posts can be found there.
elizabbyelizabby on April 22nd, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)
Or do we need a tag specifically for Stem Cells? This is not the only cup associated with them, and there was some competition a while ago to do with stem cells - can't recall the details now...
iudmamaiudmama on April 23rd, 2009 06:59 pm (UTC)
I think this is a good idea - either as it's own tag or a sub-category.

The stem cell/cup thing was to promote Cryo-Cell's C'elle program and the free cups were MoonCups(Keeper).