Ok, so I started today and thought this is the day that my cup will work. I used lube and properly cleaned everything. I used the extreme 7 fold and attempted to get my ladycup in. It would go in 3/4 of the way and was painful by the way and seemed not to go any further. I tried twice and was quite sore so I put in a tampon. I thought I had the angle right. I will wait and hopefully have the guts to try again tommorrow.