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12 September 2008 @ 03:42 pm
I have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that despite trying different folds and lube in my vagina and on the rim of the cup, I can not get my Lunette size 2 inside. I tried doing it sitting on the toilet with my legs spread as far as possible. Then, I tried to insert it standing up and squatting. The second method had a little more success, but I could not get it in all the way without it popping before I needed it to. Fortunately, I could prevent it from injuring me.  The good news is that with the lube, I was able to push my index finger further than I normally can. I think I was able to insert it as far as the vagina itself. Also, I can fit in two fingers, though they can not go as far. Any advice? I think my period is very coming soon.
Kai: pic#77976566kuradi8 on September 12th, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
OOOOHHHHMMMM.... Relax. Take deep breaths and (neurotic_orchid's good advice) relax your jaw during insertion and removal. Think happy thoughts. Consider it a pleasant experience.

Try using the punch-down fold. Face the punched part down. Hold the cup with your thumb and middle finger, and slip your forefinger in along with the cup. Insert the cup at least half-way and allow your forefinger to "take the hit" as the cup unfolds. Also use that forefinger to allow a little air into the cup if necessary so it unfolds fully. Withdraw your forefinger and give the stem a gentle nudge rear-ward, then kegel the cup into place.

That should do it.

Your vagina itself is quite elastic. The PC muscles at the entrance to your vagina are what seem to be fighting you the most. Consciously unclench them. "UN-kegel" for insertion, then kegel to seat once the cup is in.
rsilvergunrsilvergun on September 13th, 2008 02:40 am (UTC)
Do you have a picture of how I should hold the cup in the punch down fold prior to insertion?
Kai: pic#77976566kuradi8 on September 13th, 2008 02:51 am (UTC)
Here are a bunch of folding techniques: http://community.livejournal.com/menstrual_cups/453392.html

And this video is not in English http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dItR7qHublc but it shows the punch-down fold in action -- but she doesn't cushion the POP open with her forefinger. You'll have to use your imagination for that.

Practice with your hand first???
rsilvergunrsilvergun on September 13th, 2008 08:52 pm (UTC)
^ Thank you for the video. Seeing how the cup is supposed to enter was a great help. I kept relaxing and it was going in great, but I began to lose grip of the cup, so I drew it out before it could open up too early and do some serious damage. I tried a few more times, but I could not get it as far as I did that one time. I think I'll be able to get it right tomorrow. Would it be better to do it laying down?
bomega on September 12th, 2008 11:27 pm (UTC)
Sounds like you are getting along. Just relax and take it easy. Before you even try, get you mind into a relaxed mode. You might want to have a some tea or a little wine and listen to some soft music for a little while, and then try again.

Also, when you say that you were able to insert one finger as far as the vagina, do you mean that you reached your cervix? Is it possible that the Lunette-2 is too big for you, based on how long your vagina is? Maybe you just need a shorter cup?

Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
rsilvergunrsilvergun on September 13th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
To be honest, I'm not sure if I reached my cervix or if I went past it. I know I felt my G-spot before moving further up.
bomega on September 13th, 2008 10:02 am (UTC)
Hmm...I'm still a little unclear. The cervix is sort of the end of the vagina...and the tip of the cervix feels like the tip of your nose. But the whole cervix is a bit rounded, so there is a "past the tip of the cervix" but it is just more cervix...until the vaginal wall meets the cervix. And all of this isn't very far at all. (Sorry if that doesn't make any sense.)

But more to the point, if there isn't much distance from your vaginal opening to your cervix, you may need a shorter cup. That is, if you can't get the cup fully inside of you, it may be because you have a short vagina. Cups shorter than the Lunette-2: Lunette-1, Mooncup UK, MooncupUS, Ladycup.

Finally, I will add this: Now you may need some more exploring and experimentation. But, in my case, I found that the Diva-small,a longer cup with a narrower rim than Lunette-2, fits inside of me better than the Lunette-2, which is shorter, but wider. The Lunette-2 actually sticks outside of me when I push it up as far as it goes. But the Diva, goes at far as it goes, encompasses my cervix, and still fits inside of my vagina.

Hope this helps (and I apologize if my late night ramblings make no sense.)
riannawolfriannawolf on September 13th, 2008 12:27 am (UTC)
i usually try the sitting, but i kinda slouch and tilt the pelvis up, that seems to make it easier to maneuver things, not to mention no worries about losing my balance!
jen: miyu- redwitchbabywigg on September 16th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)
I'd suggest you give up on the dry runs and wait for your period to start before trying again. Insertion + removal are quite different when your period is around to lubricate everything for you. Then try getting it in while lying down.