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Sammich
02 August 2008 @ 02:44 pm
So I posted a week or so ago regarding a dry run, and took everyone's words to heart. I decided to lay it aside until I was actually on my period, and low and behold, awesome advice. My period started this morning, and while I'm still befuddled as to how I'll ever get it in at work, given the contortion I put myself through to actually get it in comfortably, it was in and comfortable.

But... I put it in, and the damn thing just made a run north. I'm not a panicker, but I stood there thinking "Huh. I wonder how on earth I'm going to reach all the way up to my sternum to get this blasted thing out!"

I was headed to the movies with a friend, so I decided I probably ought to at least TRY to figure out how to get it out. Bear down, wiggle around, do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around, that's how you get it out. Okay, fine, well and good. Glad I didn't trim the stem, 'cause I'd have been screwed.

So I put it back in, comfortable, let it settle wherever it wants (because that's what I should do, right?) and go to the movies. About 40 minutes into the movie, I get up and go to the bathroom, only to find that I'm leaking. Or more to the point, I don't seem to be hitting the cup at all, and it has wormed its way up even farther. It took some serious work to get it back out (it HAD sealed), and there seemed to be more blood on the outside than on the inside (though it was collecting some.) I don't know what to do, and I definitely don't want to give up, but I will say I took it out and returned to a tampon for the interim. It's a Mooncup UK, and I'm a little bummed here!
 
Ramdomly Scheduled Programmingla_schipa on August 2nd, 2008 07:58 pm (UTC)
Well, it's the first day and I know it's annoying when it doesn't work like expected. Take a breath and start again.

I had a lot of that the first few cycles, with my Keeper. I realized, with the help of everyone here, that the angle of entry was the problem for me. So now I use the punch down fold and insert the cup with the punched in part down (facing the floor). I basically angle the bowl part of the cup toward my back, and tip the rim up toward the pubic bone as I slide it in. The stem tends to point at a kind of 45 degree angle toward my clitoris. Whether it rides up or stays low, I don't leak unless it's been in a long time on day one, which is heavy for me.

I'm not sure that was clear but if you have question just ask. It took me about 6 months to really figure it all out and get it every time but I was at 80% leak free by month 2. There is hope.
Sammichtheliningsilver on August 2nd, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I feel like a total failure at this, but the upside is that I'm stubborn as heck and don't give up easily, so I'm definitely going to try again. Thanks!
Jackie Calypigialdy_shadow on August 2nd, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
Sounds like you might just have a tricky cervix. I've been using my mooncup UK nearly effortlessly for over a year now, but in those first days, I would find that like you - I'd be bloody everywhere else, and only a tiny bit in the cup.

Then I caught on, and realized that despite my popping, stirring, and rotating, my cervix would hop on over to the side, the back, anywhere but the cup.

And it would laugh at me. Not just a little chuckle, either. Big guffaws.

I finally made it a point to tuck my cervix into the cup before I let any permanent popping open/suctioning go on.

Haven't leaked since.
Christinekisekileia on August 3rd, 2008 02:10 am (UTC)
I generally get my cervix inside the cup as well. Doing that actually helps the cup pop open for me. (I use a small Diva.)
Kai: pic#74324509kuradi8 on August 2nd, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC)
la_shipa gave good advice. I agree that the punch-down with the punched part facing down is the easiest way to get a good pop and seal. In the beginning, you'll use a lot of shields and minis until you get the hang of cups. It takes a couple of cycles.

I find that inserting it fairly low and kegeling it into place (once it has popped) is more likely to put it into the right place than shoving it in with my fingers. Of course, we're all different.

The learning curve is frustrating but hang in there. Fortunately, you have a UK Mooncup, which is an easy cup to master.

I love my UK Mooncup (not pictured yet) but its capacity is a little low for my heavy day(s.) I like an inside-out Diva for heavier days (doesn't fit me right when it's right-side out) and I'm anxiously awaiting delivery of a Large Lunette.
Kai: pic#74324509kuradi8 on August 2nd, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
OH! I forgot to add.....

Because your flow seems to be hitting the side of your cup, not the opening, it has probably suctioned itself to the back wall of your vagina, not to your cervix.

Your cervix is not on the back wall, it's kinda-sorta on the TOP wall. Picture a PIPE versus a cigarette holder. Before you insert your cup next time, stick your finger in and feel around for your cervix. Some are right on top, others are kinda off to the side a little. As you kegel your cup into place, give the stem a little nudge so that the opening aims to where ever your cervix is.

I had that same problem at first -- and that was my solution. I hope it works for you too.
singingdancing on August 2nd, 2008 11:37 pm (UTC)
getting a cup to work without leaking
I'm stubborn too. It took 2 years before I got my Divacup to function without leaking, and it might never have happened if it weren't for this forum.

What worked for me was wearing it lower and angling the pull-tab toward my rear, and a bit off to the side. I had to get it to pop open higher up, then pull it down again.

Keep trying!
Ex astris, scientia.component on August 3rd, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
it may actually be that it wasnt as sealed as you thought it was. i know i had this exact same problem at first. then i figured out that there need to be more air in the vaginal canal i order for the cup to expland properly, even there was already a lot of suction. so what i did was i pushed out on one side of my vagina wall and all the air flooded in and expanded the cup to where it was properly sealed. hope that provided some insight! it usually sucks the first few days for everyone.
Ex astris, scientia.component on August 3rd, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
omg there are so many grammatical/spelling erros in my comment im not even going to bother editing it XD sorry about that lol