Leilia
14 March 2006 @ 08:19 pm
I took a bunch of pictures of the different folds as I understand them, for future reference!  Trying to figure out the "7" fold in particular was really difficult until I found some pictures.  I thought it would be good to have step by step pictures of all the folds in one place.

I also am planning on taking comparison pictures of ALL the different menstrual cups (Lunette included).  I wrote to the companies asing for samples.  I plan to put all these photos, as well as the folds, on a webpage for easy access, for beginner cup users!  Hopefully I can make the process of getting used to a cup easier than it was for me!  And maybe some other information too, who knows.

WARNING!  For those on dial-up, there are a TON of pictures behind the cut.  It will take awhile to load.  Pictures approximately 100 kb each, and there are 18 of them behind the cut.


My Keeper.  Approximately 2 1/2 years old, Size "B" (smaller size).  Yeah I know I need a manicure. :P  The Keeper was dry too, much harder to hold the folds!  Oh and it's not that easy taking pictures of your own hand, but way better than sucking up my pride and asking my sister to photograph my menstrual cup!


"C" Fold:
This one is pretty straightforward, directions for it come with every cup.  It's also the widest fold.


Step 1:  Pinch the cup, pressing both sides together.


Step 2: Fold the cup in half.

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Step 3: Pinch cup together, forming a "C" shape, and insert.



Punch-Down Fold:
A lot of people find insertion easier with this fold because the width is decreased, but some people find it doesn't pop open as easily.


Step 1:  Push the rim of the cup down into the cup to the base with your finger.


Step 2: Pinch the sides of the cup together.


Step 3: Grasp the cup at the base to insert.



"7" Fold:
This fold is smaller than the "C" Fold, and some people find it opens easier than the punch-down fold.  It makes a "7" shape with the rim of the cup.

Step 1:  First you pinch the sides of the cup together, as with "C" fold.


Step 2:  Fold one side of the cup over and down, forming a "7" shape with the rim of the cup.



"Origami" Fold:
I saw pictures of this fold in the Yahoo! group "MoonKeeperDivas" photo album.  I'm not sure if it's exactly the same-- the photos are blurry and they're labelled as "7" Fold.  But this is definitely a different fold, and it's my favorite.  It's as small as the punch down but opens as easily as the "7" fold.  The best description I could come up with is "origami" as there are a lot of steps to this fold.


Step 1: Push one side of the rim down about halfway in the cup.


Step 2: Bring one side of the cup across the other and down, as in "7" fold.


Step 3: Press the cup flat, creating folds at the bottom of the cup.


This photo shows the funky smooshed folds of the bottom.  This helps the cup pop open more easily.


Step 4: Pinch the bottom of the cup and insert.  I find I can get it farther in before it opens than other folds, creating a better seal.


A side view of this fold.



Comparison Pictures
These pictures are "actual size" in my screen resolution-- unfortunately probably very few of you use this screen resolution, so it will appear much bigger.  But for those of you who happen to be browsing on an 800 pixel height resolution, then these are actual size!  But even if not, these photos are in scale to eachother.

Fully Open
"C" Fold
"7" Fold
Punch-Down
Origami Fold
 
 
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Melissa, starry-eyed soy-lovin' Expatriated Zulu: Divacupoddharmonic on March 15th, 2006 01:30 am (UTC)
Great work!

I think the comparison pictures will be a particularly valuable resource for this community.
3 SD's off normaechei on March 15th, 2006 01:32 am (UTC)
your c fold and punchdown pics from the top are missing.
Leilia: workailiel on March 15th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC)
They're working for me-- try refreshing the page.
(no subject) - aechei on March 15th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
blueeyedappleblueeyedapple on March 15th, 2006 01:32 am (UTC)
completely off topic, I have seen several people with user icons like yours - where do you get them?

I use the punch down, which I thought was the 7, either way, it works for me. C doesn't open up for me.
Leiliaailiel on March 15th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC)
I hate this answer-- but I can't remember where. It was a long time ago, everyone on livejournal pretty much had one for awhile-- hopefully someone will come by who has the link to it.

And the C fold is hard for me to insert sometimes. The punch down works pretty well for me also, except not wanting to open sometimes.

It might be that different folds work better/open easier depending on the material of the cup.
(no subject) - blueeyedapple on March 15th, 2006 02:04 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - onyxravnos on March 15th, 2006 05:36 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - oddharmonic on March 15th, 2006 01:56 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - blueeyedapple on March 15th, 2006 02:02 am (UTC) (Expand)
Still off topic but... - onyxravnos on March 15th, 2006 05:33 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Still off topic but... - oddharmonic on March 15th, 2006 06:13 am (UTC) (Expand)
Psyche The Sanepsychethesane on March 15th, 2006 01:33 am (UTC)
Zow! I think I may have a chance at actually trying a different type of fold now. Thanks for such a groovy set of instructions/illustrations.
EMCdarkdepths on March 15th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC)
I agree - what a great post!!! Thank you so much for doing this! I can imagine the time and effort it took to get decent shots with one hand, but we are all in much appreciation for it! Seeing them makes it all make so much more sense....

(Would you believe that when I first heard of the 7-fold, I thought you literally had to fold it 7 times and was scratching my head trying to figure out how you'd do that!)

The origami one looks very interesting.... I think I'll pull out my Diva to try it out!

One more "woot!" for a much-needed post!
Leilia: workailiel on March 15th, 2006 01:42 am (UTC)
I totally believe that-- because that's how the origami fold was born! Me attempting to fold my cup seven times. LOL!

Glad that it's really helpful. Now I can't wait to get my cup samples.
(no subject) - autumn_sylver on March 15th, 2006 03:15 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ailiel on March 15th, 2006 04:24 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - autumn_sylver on March 15th, 2006 04:29 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - suncatnin on March 15th, 2006 05:27 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ailiel on March 15th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - suncatnin on March 16th, 2006 04:57 am (UTC) (Expand)
asequelofdecay on March 15th, 2006 01:38 am (UTC)
Thank you!
Circus Girlsandundershoes on March 15th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC)
I'd never heard of the origami fold. Thanks for posting the pictures! Now I just have to wait the two weeks until my period to try it.
All You Need is Lovetiggsybabes on March 15th, 2006 02:51 am (UTC)
Thank you, I've just bought a mooncup & was having problems last week inserting it, after no problems the month before. I shall try some of these folds next time.
That Slow Southern Stylegwennierocks on March 15th, 2006 02:51 am (UTC)
some of these make me feel as though i would get finger cramps :)

this post = 1
Leilia: workailiel on March 15th, 2006 04:22 am (UTC)
I hope a "1" is good!

And actually, I can do the origami and punchdown really easily, but the ones that DO give me finger cramps are "C" and "7"... because both just seem to want to pop open unless I'm squeezing the whole cup. The other two, I just pinch at the base, much easier.
Tikvah (not to be confused w/the fabulous "Tikva"): such a girl by liminaliztikvah on March 15th, 2006 03:09 am (UTC)
I've never been able to follow any of the other diagrams I saw for the more complicated folks. Now I can.

Thank you!
Tikvah (not to be confused w/the fabulous "Tikva"): oopstikvah on March 15th, 2006 03:09 am (UTC)
That should be "folds" instead of "folks" - oops!
(no subject) - knittinggoddess on March 15th, 2006 10:09 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - tikvah on March 15th, 2006 10:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
eluted on March 15th, 2006 03:19 am (UTC)
Thankyoooooooooou!
TheRonaonthepage on March 15th, 2006 03:23 am (UTC)
for some reason, i didn't realize the keeper is red (i use a divacup). this amuses me.
shanay_andshesays on March 15th, 2006 03:28 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's brown (?)... at least, that is how it has always looked on my monitor.
(no subject) - oboegoddess on March 15th, 2006 03:34 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - onthepage on March 15th, 2006 03:44 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ailiel on March 15th, 2006 04:30 am (UTC) (Expand)
Delicious_Revelationrevelation2005 on March 15th, 2006 04:12 am (UTC)
Isn't that fasinating! I always use the C fold with my Diva and I'll continue to because it's always worked well, but I really enjoyed seeing all those different techniques. You learn something new every day!
nekobob on March 15th, 2006 05:18 am (UTC)
wow, that seems like a lot of stuff to go through. I just fold it in half and shove it up there.
Madame Bonheur: omg lolz usher and jtizzleamitabhbachchan on March 15th, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC)
:O
In half once?
Re: :O - knittinggoddess on March 15th, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: :O - nekobob on March 16th, 2006 05:52 am (UTC) (Expand)
mynameisjaime on March 15th, 2006 07:33 am (UTC)
awesome. i never understood the seven fold 'till now!
raindropsieraindropsie on March 15th, 2006 07:42 am (UTC)
Good work! I vote this for memories! I only understood c-fold (can't insert it) and punch-down (easy to insert, a teeny difficult to open properly), but now I know others aswell! I'll deffinently try the 7 fold and the origami fold! Thanx again, (and I think it was just in time).
taviuktaviuk on March 15th, 2006 08:01 am (UTC)
wow - this is great! I've never been able to figure out the different folds. this is sooo helpful. I can't wait to try the orgami fold. and your post came at the perfect time I have to say - thanks!!
ever so slightly obsessedscien on March 15th, 2006 01:39 pm (UTC)
memories!
Ashatenlegspider on March 15th, 2006 04:39 pm (UTC)
Ooh, that's got to be really helpful for a lot of people. I'm happy with the C, but I'm off to pimp this entry for those who aren't.
braver_swallow on March 15th, 2006 07:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
kelly bellykellybellynet on March 16th, 2006 01:40 am (UTC)
Wow, thanks!

I've added this to the memories.
Drevenante on March 17th, 2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
You are my hero. I'd been having trouble inserting my cup for over a year, and thanks to your diagrams (especially of punchdown, which is what I ended up using), I finally got it in for the first time. THANK YOU =D
Leahsimpleshaquana on March 18th, 2006 05:01 am (UTC)
thanks for posting this - cups confused me, I had no idea how to get them in and never even bothered getting one!

Right now I'm trying to find one that's definitely latex-free; you seem to be an expert on cups to some degree, so do you know which ones are safe for people with latex allergies?
Leilia: workailiel on March 18th, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
I'm by no means a menstrual cup expert, but I do know the answer to this question! The cup you see here, the Keeper, made by a USA company, is made of natural gum rubber, which you would NOT want to use with a latex allergy. That leaves the three silicone cups on the market-- Divacup (Canada), Mooncup (UK), and the Lunette (Finland). All would be safe for people with latex allergies. You can find the links to those companies on the userlookup page of this community. I'm so glad this post helped someone, and this community is great when you are in the learning stages-- I only wish I found it before I got my own cup! I had problems which turned out to be very easy to solve, that's why I made this post, sometimes a simple trick can make things so much easier!
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jasminewindjasminewind on April 1st, 2006 03:13 am (UTC)
Thanks for the great post!

I had a keeper for a few months before I got pregnant w/my first kid several years ago. Now that I am done menstruating again after kid #2, I have a new "size A" keeper.

I seem to remember something in my old instructions about trimming the stem but I don't see anything in the new one about that. I notice from your photos that you have trimmed yours totally off. I'd love to do that too! Has it been problemmatic for you at all?

Thanks!
Beth on the Islandwolf_song on April 1st, 2006 05:20 pm (UTC)
I have mine cut cleanly off and have no problems.
Shortyvalue_meal_2 on April 5th, 2006 08:21 pm (UTC)
Thank you SO much! I know this is a little old, but I've been having problems getting mine to open, and I can't wait to try these methods out.
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