Hi, beautiful ladies! You are all amazingly helpful. I've been reading everything on this forum trying to figure out which cup to buy first, and I think I've found a couple good ones, but I'm brand new and I'd love to hear from someone who has experience.

Okay, so, here are the details: I'm 22, sexually active, no babies; I've regularly worn disposable pads rather than tampons; average flow; I have a high cervix (I've tried several times to reach it throughout my cycle and never have), and I'm not incredibly active so I'm not sure how strong my pelvic floor/muscles are.

I'm thinking that the model 1 Si-Bell (or the Natu cup, since I don't know of any differences between the two brands) could be good for me because although the cup itself is not very long, the cup plus the stem is pretty long. Also, I read here that some women have been able to take out the Si-Bell just by pulling on the stem, rather than having to grab the bottom of the cup. And since, having to grab the actual cup itself (which apparently you wouldn't need to do with the Si-Bell) is why women with a high cervix are advised to get a longer cup, maybe the short Si-bell cup (with it's helpful long stem) would still be preferable for women with a high cervix. ..?

Next, softness/squishiness of the Si-Bell cup. It seems that most women find the softer cups to be more comfortable, but generally they take more time to get to open. I don't mind having to take a little bit longer on my learning curve, as long as it's not always going to be a hassle.
Something else I've heard is that if you have strong pelvic muscles and a soft cup, the cup might not have room to open up all of the way or it might move out of place because your super strong muscles are crushing it. I'm not currently very athletic/active but I'd enjoy having the option. I think I'd prefer the comfort-ability of a soft cup, but not if I'd have to worry that the cup would cave in and not stay properly open and then leak. Does anyone have any advice on the Si-Bell cup and how it holds up in general or if you're active/have strong muscles. Some advice on the strength of the pelvic muscles in relation to soft cups in general, or how to tell if you have strong muscles, might also be helpful.

Short Story: My main concerns are, if the Si-Bell (or Natu) cup would work with a high cervix (meaning, can you easily reach and remove it) even though it's a smaller cup, if you can figure out how to insert and open it without always having to fuss with it, and if you can be active with it without it being squished by your muscles, moving out of place, and then leaking.

Thank you for reading all of this and offering advice if you have any. :D
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Allibeanhmsbackstroker on April 13th, 2014 05:35 am (UTC)
Hi there and welcome! Just a note that we try to use gender neutral terms here because some of our members may not identify as female. :)

I think that the Si-Bell is a great option for a high cervix with the long stem, you are exactly right with that one. I have a low cervix, but I have heard good things. Really the only thing you can do is read other people's experiences and take the plunge. If it works, great! If not, try again!

Honestly, as far as softness goes, I would really recommend going with a regular softness first, then graduating to a soft. My anatomy is very easy to navigate, with everything easily "within reach" like I said before, but it still took me three months to get a technique down pat for inserting and popping open. I think that having such a high cervix would make it more of a challenge to manually pop open if it didn't upon insertion, and having the additional challenge of the softness would make for a frustrating learning curve. If you don't have any pubic bone issues, you really shouldn't feel the cup when it's inserted properly. My suggestion is to get it down with a regular softness first and then "graduate" to a soft. If you're not doing turbo kegels, you shouldn't have to worry about a soft cup caving in, when you do graduate to one, as long as you get a good suction.

Good luck and keep us updated! (It's a great support system here!)

Edited at 2014-04-13 05:39 am (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 13th, 2014 12:18 pm (UTC)
Ignore the instructions and illustrations, and forget that you ever saw them. For most of us, they are just plain WRONG.

ANY cup will/should eventually settle (O) around your cervix. The height of the base of the cup will be relative to the length of your cup and the length of your vagina.

A cup that is too short will seem to migrate out of reach. Some can remove it by just pulling the stem, but that causes suction which can be painful. Another issue with a cup that's too short is that a (what we call) "dangly" cervix can hang into it and not leave much room for flow. So my advice is "Don't be afraid of length if you think you need it."

On the other hand, a cup that is too long will press on or feel like it's poking through the pelvic floor muscles. It could feel like the cup is trying to escape -- especially while bearing down during bowel movements or strenuous activity like lifting something heavy.
KaleidoscopeEydkaleidoscopeeyd on April 13th, 2014 01:41 pm (UTC)
Just a note from a new cup user. I did a dry run with my first cup the other day and when I had a hard time grabbing the base of the cup I tried tugging, very very slightly, on the stem. My advice to you is: do not do this. Maybe I am just sensitive, but I immediately got dizzy, cold sweats and light headed and had to lay down, pants around my ankles, on my bathroom floor until I was steady enough to try again. I believe this is called a "vasovagal response" and can happen when sensitive body parts (or those not used to interaction with things) are disrupted.

It may not apply to you. Just a precautionary tale from someone who has had the experience.
If you have trouble reaching the base, just "bear down" like people say here. Basically try and push your cup out like you would a baby or (excuse me) a bowel movement.
fluffmyflamingofluffmyflamingo on April 14th, 2014 07:15 am (UTC)
I have a high cervix (can only just touch it with a fingertip just before my period and I have long fingers) and would thoroughly recommend the si-bell. The stem on mine is completely untrimmed but it is so soft and flexible it never causes any discomfort (even just after insertion before it climbs up closer to my cervix). I had reservations too about the softness but actually this is the only cup I've ever been able to open successfully every single time. I insert the cup then insert my finger as an air channel and I can actually feel the cup fill with air and start to climb up to its preferred position! The stem is sometimes only just reachable but with a small amount of baring down I can grab and pull til I can feel the base and then remove. The suction is indeed quite light with a si-bell and I don't aim to but do occasionally pull it straight out. I've had no children but am over 30 so would say my pelvic muscles are strongish. Hope this helps :-)
jerseygirl15951 on April 15th, 2014 02:12 am (UTC)
Why have a long stem if you can't use it?
Thank you for your responses, they've all been helpful. I'm still getting used to this site, so I'm just going to put your names and then my response to you and hope that you all get notified... You're all welcome to respond to any of the questions below.

@hmsbackstroker - Oh gosh, I didn't even think about that. I definitely don't want to offend anyone. Thank you for the tip. :)I took another look at the Diva Cup, because it has the longest length and from what I understand it's an average firmness. Would you agree?

@Kuradi8 - I'm definitely not afraid of the length, and one of the things that really attracts me to the Si-Bell is that it has a total length that is larger than, for example, the diva cup (which is the cup with the greatest cup length that I've found).

@Kaleidoscopeeyd - Yikes, thank you for the warning. That does not sound like a great time. I wonder what's the use in leaving a long stem if you can't really use it to grab on to?

@fluffmyflamingo - did you have a great deal of experience with menstrual cups before trying the Si-Bell? Do you think having experience with a firmer cup would be helpful to learn first before grabbing a softer one?
fluffmyflamingofluffmyflamingo on April 15th, 2014 07:01 am (UTC)
Hi, I had previously used a Mooncup UK, FemmyCycle and meluna klassic and sport none of which with 100% success. Not really I don't think personally, I wish I'd saved a lot of stress and money by starting off with the si-bell but then it was only due to the kind people of this community that I even knew to try it!
Luceafaraluceafara on April 15th, 2014 03:40 am (UTC)
Hi, the Si-bell and old-style Natu pop open easily despite their softness, because of their totally awesome design: they have four indentations that go vertically along the entire length of the cup.

I say old style Natu, but it is still being sold as "the" Natu in many places. In pictures, it looks identical to the Si-bell, but it is a tiny tiny bit thinner walled, thus a tiny tiny bit softer than the Si-bell. I have both and them being soft poses no problems for insertion, and makes breaking the seal indefinitely easier (not that breaking the seal of any of my cups is difficult, but i have a low cervix and can reach the bases of all my cups anyway).
To see comparison pics, click on the Natu tag on the right-hand side. I posted a comparison a while back.

I have not tried out the new Natu, which came out recently. The Italian web-store (with very good prices, BTW) coppetta-mestruale.it sells both, if you want to check out pics of the new Natu. It is still reported to be super soft, but the design is a bit different now.
(ETA link, don't mind the wonky English translation on that page:
https://www.coppetta-mestruale.it/coppette.php )

Neither my Natu, nor my Si-bell have moved out of place or were squished by my muscles ever. It's hard to explain or understand how the suction can be so easy to break, yet why it holds suction while you wear it, even after a full day in the ocean.

Edited at 2014-04-15 03:42 am (UTC)
jerseygirl15951 on April 17th, 2014 07:51 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for responding and being so helpful. This is the best community! I think I just love the Si-Bell, so I'm gonna go for it. I'll come back here and update with how it goes. I'm really excited. Thanks, again! :D
jerseygirl15951 on May 31st, 2014 10:50 pm (UTC)
Natu Cup
Hello, again!
I just received my Natu Cup yesterday. I decided to go for the Natu, basically because I didn't want to be patient and wait for the Si-Bell to be back in stock on femininewear.co.uk and I didn't want to order from the siline website. Plus, the Natu is supposed to be extremely similar, so I bought it. I haven't tried it on yet,but I've taken a couple pictures, so I think I'm just going to make a new post with my review. :)
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