teleskimama
I have read hundreds of posts here trying to figure out what the problem is as my Diva hurts me even though I think i have it in correctly. I am a new cup user, having the divacup for the second month. I have sz 2 as I have given vaginal birth once and am 37 yrs old. The problem is that it is VERY uncomfortable, causing really bad cramping & soreness, pressure and a feeling of suction inside me.  I can't do anything but sit or lie down when I have it in....walking is not comfortable as i feel the pressure/suction constantly. It is a relief when i take it out...a big bummer as i want this to work for me!

Insertion goes ok, i feel it pop open and I do NOT leak, therefore leading me to believe i have it in correctly. I am not usually able to spin it, but I have slid my finger around it to make sure it's open. I've re-inserted it many times to try and make sure it's in the correct position... I really can't imagine that i have that many options as it pops open as soon as it's inside me and is suctioned in pretty strong. If it was in the wrong place, i would think that would cause leaking as i do bleed quite heavily. 

I did discover that my cervix is VERY low, just about exactly the same length as the diva flipped inside out. So, it seems the divacup has to be in contact with it, or at least causing the major pressure and discomfort. I'm not sure how I'd get around this since my cervix sits so low. 

I've spent hours reading entries in this great forum and have tried everything i can find: I trimmed the stem with so-so results - it still bothered me so i flipped inside out. This DID help, but the internal pain/discomfort is still there. I have worn it for 2 nights now and several hours during the day. I do have a very sensitive body so i'm wondering if I will not be able to use a cup, especially with my cervix being so low?  The first night felt like my body would never relax with it in... I had the constant feeling of my vagina wanting to push it out (very clenched muscles), and it continues to feel like that many hours later. I realize this particular issue may have to do with me getting used to it, but that is minor compared to the pain i feel from using it. The cramps were so bad on the first day that i had to take it out and was sore for hours later.

I'm hoping someone may have some answers for me as to why this is causing me so much pain! Thankyou ahead of time!
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buzzboomsplatbuzzboomsplat on October 9th, 2009 05:45 am (UTC)
Everyone is different and I'm no expert but I think that the recommendation that people use the larger size after childbirth doesn't work for everyone. Especially considering that even the small diva is, as far as I remember, longer than most other cups. Sometimes it takes multiple tries to find a cup that works for you. I tried the Keeper (and then the Keeper Mooncup, same design different material) but then later tried a Lunette and it just happened to work so much better. (Was a shame after spending $100 on other cups, but maybe you're still within a timeframe where you could get your money back)

Again, not sure if it's just me or if everyone finds this but I have no problems at all with suction with the Lunette, while I had problems with the Keeper (super suction!).

Good luck with it all, I hope you find a solution to your problems.
Moemm03m on October 9th, 2009 05:53 am (UTC)
It sounds like it might be too long for you. Does it seem to want to stick out of your vaginal opening?
fireaphidfireaphid on October 9th, 2009 07:09 am (UTC)
It sounds like your cup is just way too long for your anatomy. Have you seen the size charts (http://community.livejournal.com/menstrual_cups/1285963.html)? You may note that the Diva is the longest cup on the market, and there are plenty of other cups that are more than 1cm shorter. That should keep the cup from irritating your sensitive cervix. Sorry turning it inside out wasn't enough!
Lost: amber-meep!gypsy_owl on October 9th, 2009 09:14 am (UTC)
Others have already given you some good answers, in that (sadly) you might just have to try another cup. Before you do, you might try to consider where the pressure is coming from. You say you have cramps and that you feel like it's sucking... I know that I've read once or twice that some members (I think especially with the Diva, though I'm not entirely sure) have slightly widened the holes on their cups and often that can help with the problem. I don't know what most use to do this, but perhaps a small safety pin would work? Something to at least ponder.

I don't know what the return policy is on the cups, so if you are planning to do that, double check it before doing any other 'damage' to it.

If you do consider another cup, I'd just be careful to find out what the problem with the diva is (Rim, length, shape of cup, stiffness of cup, ect). My first thought is honestly to make sure that your cervix is in the cup, and not being pressed by it. I know for myself if my cup pops open in such a way that the rim is pressing over my cervix opening -- and sometimes the side, though that's not as bad -- there's pain, and it doesn't fade fast.

Good luck.
teleskimamateleskimama on October 9th, 2009 09:01 pm (UTC)
placement of cup
Thankyou so much for your reply!
How do you know the rim is pressing your cervix or to the side? I've tried moving it around, but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference and doesn't seem to move much. I totally agree that the Diva is too long for me, the shorter length when flipped inside out does help, but it is still really uncomfortable with the pressure, suction and cramping. Any ideas how I would know what the particular problem is -- shape of cup, rim, etc - so I can try to find a better cup for me.
Lost: 42gypsy_owl on October 9th, 2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
Re: placement of cup
The way I know when I've put it in wrong to hit my cerix (besides the pain) is that I can run my finger around the rim and bump into it. This happened a few times when I was first putting a cup in I think because I tended to angle to high or up and down rather than more at a line and toward my tail bone. So, if you can fit a finger up and past the rim of the cup to sweep around inside, you'd be able to find your cervix if it isn't in the cup.

As far as figuring out what other parts of the cup might work, I think part of it would be closing your eyes and really listening to your body. Run a finger on the side of the cup and find out if the finger being on the out side of the cup causes pain, or if it's only higher where the rim is. It's so hard to know, but depending on your body and body shape, that might make a big difference.

Also, I don't know if you have or not, but consider different positions for putting the cup in. Some (like me) do it over the toilet, some squatting in the shower, and I wouldn't be surprised if some even did it laying down. Just... another thing to ponder. (don't you wish there was a magic wand to tell us what cup would be perfect for us?)
jarethrakejarethrake on October 9th, 2009 10:32 am (UTC)
I'm new at this, but I'd say that the cup is just too big for you.

Btw, my mooncup (UK) works fine so far, and I can't spin it either, so that's not necessarily a bad sign by itself.
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teleskimamateleskimama on October 9th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
Thankyou so much for such great suggestions! I will definitely start researching what i can get in the US.

I also was thinking i just needed to get used to the divacup, but finally determined i should not be in this much pain as very few people seemed to have this problem.

Thankyou again!
Kai: pic#77976566kuradi8 on October 9th, 2009 11:58 am (UTC)
Yes, it sounds like the Diva is too long for you. Check out the size charts to see what might appeal to you next. As you can see by this icon the inside out Diva on the right is almost as short as the UK Mooncup in the middle and Lunette on the left (all large) so flipping it is a good solution for either the short or long term.

Unfortunately, neither of the other two cups pictured can ship to the US. The Lunette will become available again as soon as it passes FDA approval (try the large Lady/Color cup in mean time?) and the Femmecup makes a good "knock-off" of the UK Mooncup.
teleskimamateleskimama on October 9th, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC)
finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
Thankyou SO much to all of you who have taken the time to respond to my post! I'm blown away by the generosity of everyone trying to help me... how amazing!

I agree that the divacup is too big for me in length. I did use it most of today with it flipped inside out and the length seems to be mostly ok. However, I'm assuming that the overall size (rim diameter) is too big since I'm having so many problems with it hurting me. Would you all agree?

The suction feeling also can be described as feeling 'dry', even though this is not possible while I am bleeding. I went for a walk with it in and it was so painful that I nearly had to take it out (i didn't have anything else with me). It apparently is pushing on something and giving me all this referred pain in my lower abdomen and even down my leg like sciatica.

I will check into other cups that are available in the US... it sounds like there are not a lot of options:( It is tricky in that i have a heavy flow but need a smaller cup. I don't really know the 'size' of my vagina, but i did 'stretch out' after vaginal birth as tampons often feel like they are falling out and i never had that problem before. I was always pretty tight so maybe that does mean i am a smaller size. I do also think that my cervix is lower now after birth than it was in the past as tampons do not go in very far at all.

Lastly, I'm concerned about buying another cup ($$ costly) in case my body just does not like to have something inside me. Has anyone had this problem and cannot wear a cup?

THANKYOU everyone!
Kai: pic#84732488kuradi8 on October 11th, 2009 11:44 am (UTC)
Re: finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
There aren't many cups that AREN'T available to the US. The Brazilian Green Donna might be out of business so that's out but even restricted cups like Fleurcups, Lunettes and UK Mooncups can be gotten through fellow list members in other countries who re-mail them to the US.

As for cost, shop around online. There are many cup discounters. Use the size charts to narrow down your cup choices to one or two that you think would fit you best, then find the best prices on them.

If you have that cup for 5-10 years, it won't matter if it paid for itself in savings in 4 months or in 9. Either way, you're way ahead.
Moemm03m on October 11th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
Re: finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
I'm not convinced that you need a narrower cup. I believe that the length of the Diva just might be the only problem, since it would cause the cup to put pressure on your cervix, and that could cause the pain.

But of course I'm not an expert.
teleskimamateleskimama on October 12th, 2009 04:27 am (UTC)
Re: finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
Sure wish i knew what the problem is... the length does seem to be ok when flipped inside out. If the cup went any further inside me i think i'd have a problem getting it out. That's why i deduced the diameter may be too big for me since it's so uncomfortable to use. I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the options in cups and not really knowing what to try next...luckily i have another month to figure it out:)
Moemm03m on October 12th, 2009 07:35 am (UTC)
Re: finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
Well, most of us have to Kegel our cups down a bit before we can reach them, but it's not a problem. And you say that your cervix is low, so a cup couldn't go far anyway.

If the cup is too wide, I've heard that you're most likely to know because it never opens all the way so it doesn't feel completely round.

I hope you'll find a cup that works for you!
teleskimamateleskimama on October 14th, 2009 03:59 am (UTC)
Re: finding a better fitting cup that doesn't hurt
I didn't realize the cup opening fully was a potential indicator of a too large cup (diameter). I thought the length of the diva turned inside out was close to the same length as some of the shorter cups (i read that somewhere on this site), and since i was still having MAJOR pain and discomfort, I figured diameter was the issue. I'm checking into a Ladycup now... possibly trying another cup will give me some answers. Thanks so much for your help!
teleskimamateleskimama on January 26th, 2010 06:43 am (UTC)
my diva cup inside out now works great for me!
Jan2010 update: It took me 3 cycles to be able to wear my cup comfortable. If it had not been for this forum, i would never have continued to try. As you can read from my original posts, my divacup was incredible painful to use. The 2nd month was 50% better, and then the 3rd month way better, hardly feeling it most of the time.

I ALWAYS use it inside out and it works great, no problems getting it out whatsoever. The other thing i started doing differently is tipping it straight back towards my spine on insertion...just like the directions say and other people here as well. It seems strange to point it back instead of up, but it does feel better. I sometimes have a hard time getting it to open; i then release the seal with a finger along one side and then try to turn it. It spins farely easily once it's perfectly sealed. Removing the cup is super simple (after bearing down) and totally painless....this also took about 3 months to get used to. Removing it in the shower is ideal. After using my cup exclusively for all these months, i absolutely LOVE my divacup and can't imagine life without it! Thankyou ladies for all your help!
Christinexlilangelsx on November 24th, 2013 03:50 pm (UTC)
Mine also hurts me and it is inside right way and all. It hurts my leg and if i lay down it hurts too so i do not use it at night. I also have the divacup 2 am 33 and have had 2 kids.

I like my divacup but not the pain.

It feels like pressure around the hole inside or something like it's touching something in there that it should not.

I live in ottawa,Ontario,Canada so i think it's only the divacup i can get?
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